Assignment: A Brooklyn Family Tale
Assignment: A Brooklyn Family Tale
Please watch the film, A Brooklyn Family Tale
In an 8-10-page paper address the following questions, using readings from class and outside literature to support your responses. APA format and citations are required for this assignment.
Please use the following section headings in your paper and adhere to the page limits for each section.
1. Family Strengths
Using the literature, define the strengths perspective and its relevance to social work with families.What do you see as the strengths of the individuals in the Santiago-Castro-Cruz family, and in the family as a whole?Why is identifying strengths useful when working with working with families? Please refer to the literature in your response.
1-2 pages
2. Family Resilience
Using the literature, define resilience and describe its relevance to social work practice with families.Based on this definition, in what ways do you see the Santiago-Castro-Cruz family as resilient?
1-2 Pages
3. Assessing the Impact of the Environment on the Family
In what ways are the family’s struggles related to their environment and to socio-cultural factors?Why is it important to assess the impact of environmental factors on the family? Please use the literature to substantiate your response.
How might you go about assessing the impact of environmental factors on the family? Please use the literature to substantiate your response.
1-2 pages
4. Engaging and Working with Families
In the documentary, Sister Geraldine states:
“I go beyond the act. I try to find that person behind the act, then look for who is this person, what is it that they have, what’s brought them to this point in their life. That’s really social work – learning what brought them to where they are.”
What does this statement convey to you about engagement and assessment in social work practice?In her work with the Santiago-Castro-Cruz family, what are the results of Sister Geraldine’s attempts to find the person behind the act?
Based on the material covered in this class on engaging and working with families, briefly describe the skills and approaches you think would be important for engaging and working with this family. Please cite the literature in your response.
1-2 pages
5. Cultural Competence
Using the literature, define cultural competence.
In what ways did Sister Geraldine display cultural competence in her work with the Santiago-Castro-Cruz family? Are there areas in which you think she could have demonstrated greater cultural competence? Use the literature to support your responses.
Approximately 1 page
6. Potential Counter transference and Responses
Using the literature, provide a definition of the term counter transference.
Briefly discuss any counter transference issues you anticipate you might experience if you were working with this family.
What might you do to mitigate these reactions?
Approximately 1 page
Your paper should be well-written and thoughtfully respond to each question. Where stated, please cite the literature, and use appropriate citations.
00:00:10fL FILMAKERS LIBRARY, INC. New York, N.Y PRESENTS
00:00:20[sil.]
00:00:25NARRATOR Twenty years ago we came to Sunset Park, Brooklyn to make a film about juvenile crime.
00:00:30[sil.]
00:00:35NARRATOR Some of the gang leaders we met died violently, others spent their teenage years behind bars. Two nuns, Sister Mary Paul and Sister Geraldine led us to the gang members we filmed. The sisters had recently moved to Sunset Park to create the Center for Family Life. They believe that their unique brand of social work could strengthen this troubled community by supporting its children and families. Although the violence did not stop overnight, we watched as many gang members like Stingray Santiago and his brother Cisco turned to the center as an alternative to the streets. Twenty years after completing our film about juvenile crime, we returned to Sunset Park and discovered that Sister Geraldine was still working with the same Santiago Family that terrorized this neighborhood two decades ago. We learned that Cisco left the gangs to become a police officer and now helps his sister Rosa try to prevent her children from making the same mistakes he made. We followed the next generation of Cisco Santiago’s Family for three years, chronicling their hopes, struggles and continuing relationship with Sister Geraldine and the Center for Family Life. This is their story.
00:02:05LUIS CASTRO I mean, it’s like⦠it’s like war, (inaudible). Every day we go outside we’re trying to survive.
00:02:10FRANCISCO “CISCO” SANTIAGO We’ve been there.
00:02:10LUIS CASTRO Just trying to survive that’s all we were doing.
00:02:10FRANCISCO “CISCO” SANTIAGO Luis’s Uncle We’ve been through it. I mean, I’ve been shot at. I’ve⦠I’ve been chased by gangs and it’s like luckily I’m still here to talk about it, and that’s one thing that I⦠I talk to you guys about it all time. It’s like you guys go out there, walking in packs, you never know who’s got the gun or who’s got the knife.
00:02:30LUIS CASTRO I used to get into a lot of trouble, I used to get into a lot of trouble.
00:02:30FRANCISCO “CISCO” SANTIAGO Oh you gotto trust him, he did.
00:02:35LUIS CASTRO So one day, you know, mama is giving my little weapon and stuff. You know what I’m saying? She told me, she told me, I gotta sit down for weeks let me tell you pal, I learned, and I’ll say, and I thank God for my moms. You know what I’m saying? My uncle, Cisco, they’re like fathers to me too.
00:02:50How do you feel about your real father?
00:02:50LUIS CASTRO About my father, he was hardly over there, he comes when he wants to, you know and⦠and it hurts, because⦠You know what I’m saying? I ain’t gotta a pop’s or whatever. You know what I’m saying? He is not there and I’ll get along, I still love him to death. I won’t let you know I’m hurting, but it hurts.
00:03:05ELENA “TATY” CASTRO Luis’s Sister.
00:03:05ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ She feels sad because he wasn’t there for her. You know she didn’t have a father.
00:03:10LUIS CASTRO I know what she’s crying for, you know, our hearts. You know she is, we have.
00:03:15ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Luis’s Mother Put it this way, I was mother and father’s to you.
00:03:15LUIS CASTRO Yeah, my mom (crosstalk)(inaudible).
00:03:20ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, we’ve been through hell and back, but we’re still surviving.
00:03:25[sil.]
00:03:30A Brooklyn Family Tale A film by Roger Weisberg & Murray Nossel Christmas, 1997
00:03:45[sil.]
00:03:50LUIS CASTRO Who’s going to go, going to get somebody, I got the drugs, I got the drugs today.
00:03:55This is all we got, just 1275! Oh, he was holding out, he was holding out!
00:04:00From where we got this?
00:04:00That’s the reed son. Roll that shit, like that shit and smoke it.
00:04:10[sil.]
00:04:25SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Co-Director, Center for Family Life I think that with Luis like with many other young people the pull of the street and the⦠a culture on the street that could give them uh⦠money or quick prestige is so powerful. But I’ve always loved the adolescent age group. It’s the one most of the world liked to get away from, because they’re not easy. And I’ve always wanted to give them a place in the community where they were valued and not shunned.
00:04:55LUIS CASTRO I get to home, I get to home and what are you doing? Crying. Why? There’s no⦠There’s no reason for it.
00:05:00BENNY “LITTLE” CRUZ Luis’s Stepfather
00:05:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I mean, okay, there’s no reason for but I worry and you got to understand, I’ve been through it. I’ve been in gangs, I know who’s out there. I mean, it’s not like I’m a new Jackie here, you know, and I always told you, look this is going on, I don’t like what, I don’t like some of your friends because, you know, when I’d say something I got no (inaudible ) tongue, and you drink sometimes with them, you sometime come here drunk. That’s not a permission that I ever gave you for you to drink. You’re only 16 years old, you know. I don’t want to see you going down the drain just like your real father went down the drain, you know. You know, you almost lost your father. I mean, I’ve been through hell and back with you. I raised you by myself, you know, so that’s why I (inaudible ) and because I love you. If I didn’t love you and I was a mother that didn’t care then I’ll let you do what the hell you want to do out there.
00:05:50BENNY “LITTLE” CRUZ See we’re telling him not to do these things, because we had done it, and look⦠look what we have.
00:05:55LUIS CASTRO I’m⦠I’m not⦠I’m not in a warfront. Back in the days, yeah, there’s some crazy shit, but, so you have to understand where teenage life comes in, you did it, we’re going to do it and our future generation is going to do it.
00:06:10ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, but thatâs why weâre here.
00:06:10LUIS CASTRO It’s a part of life, because no kid, I don’t want to hear, but the brainy bunch does not exist. Got to be safe.
00:06:20[sil.]
00:06:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA The gangs, but the cruel phenomenon of âThat’s normal, that’s not abnormal behavior, it’s normal behavior for groups of adolescence to clique together.â
00:06:40LUIS CASTRO And you want, and you want some Pizza? No, I know itâs all fat. I know. I know. You know why I’m not going to sit, because I’m going to eat it all by myself, all by myself.
00:06:50SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA What weâve worked on is finding a different context within which the adolescent can be the leader. The after-school program is an opportunity to bring that street life indoors. It helps young people understand how they can be giving, powerful and capable by showing the same strength and the same skills in a different way. The role that they have that’s anti-social, let’s give them that role in a social environment.
00:07:30Luis, Luis!
00:07:35Luis has volunteered as a counselor in the Center’s after-school program for 4 years.
00:07:45SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA We’ve said to that population of young people, you have a very valuable role you can play. We can train you to be a childcare worker.
00:07:55I’m sort of dumb I think.
00:07:55LUIS CASTRO No you’re not dumb.
00:07:55SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA It just channels all of that energy, all of that idealism and it focuses it. The focus is on younger children who need you, you are needed in society.
00:08:10LUIS CASTRO Okay, now you see the arrow pointing up, right there, this one? There you go! And then the last one here.
00:08:15Long time no see?
00:08:20After this day, Luis suddenly stopped going to his job. Luis learned that his mother was pregnant. He began fighting with his stepfather, and his mother threw him out of the house.
00:08:35LUIS CASTRO It doesn’t matter, that’s still my house. I don’t give a shit what he says.
00:08:40DARLENE CLASSEN Luis’s girlfriend Well.
00:08:40LUIS CASTRO He could pay the bills, he could pay the rent, I lived in that house way before he was even thought of, soâ¦
00:08:45DARLENE CLASSEN Well ifâ¦
00:08:45LUIS CASTRO And my Family has lived in that house, my aunts lived in my house. What?
00:08:50DARLENE CLASSEN Why arenât you in there now?
00:08:50LUIS CASTRO Because I’m just fed up with his shit. Youâve seen what happened that night.
00:08:55DARLENE CLASSEN Yeah.
00:08:55LUIS CASTRO I was going to stab the shit out of him, right?
00:08:55DARLENE CLASSEN Yeah.
00:08:55LUIS CASTRO What I’m going to, burn the car, right?
00:09:00DARLENE CLASSEN Uh-huh.
00:09:00LUIS CASTRO If I stay there either he’s going to hurt me or I’m going to hurt him. And if I hurt him, I know I’m going to have to hurt my mother, because she’s going to get into it. And that’s what I don’t want. So she’s just the main problem there. I don’t want to do anything now butâ¦
00:09:15[sil.]
00:09:20LUIS CASTRO You know I got my love for Darlene too. You know, yesterday, you were my crew, you know what happened there, of course. You know what happened and you know what happened.
00:09:25And can you just do, just do love with that.
00:09:30LUIS CASTRO I know I’m saying though, but I’m still going to be tied down. I can’t be let down, I’m already in it.
00:09:35So what? You know you could just have your girls on the side kid.
00:09:40LUIS CASTRO I can’t do that. She’s going to find out no matter what.
00:09:40That’s good, that’s good.
00:09:40LUIS CASTRO You know what I’m saying? So itâd be better playing it safe.
00:09:50April, 1998 Luis has dropped out of school. He has also learned that his girlfriend, Darlene, is pregnant.
00:10:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Youâre 16 Luis.
00:10:00LUIS CASTRO It’s okay.
00:10:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Darlene is 19, you still got your whole life ahead of you. What makes you think that it’s going to be easy raising up a kid? I know you’re not even going to school. You’re not even looking for a job.
00:10:15LUIS CASTRO Although I’ve told you that I’m moving, right?
00:10:20ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah to Ohio. I don’t like that idea of Darlene taking you away from me, you’re 16 years old.
00:10:25LUIS CASTRO She’s not taking me away from you, you know.
00:10:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, she is because she’s with you. I mean, you’re going to be with her, you’re not going to be with me.
00:10:30LUIS CASTRO It’s not like I want you anyways. I don’t know. No parent that’ll throw their kid on the street for their man.
00:10:35ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I didn’t throw you out because of Little. The reason I threw you out, because you pulled⦠you pulled out a knife on me, and I’m supposed to be your mother.
00:10:45LUIS CASTRO He said get out and you agreed with him and that’s all.
00:10:45ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Oh yeah, because you pulled out a knife on me.
00:10:45LUIS CASTRO What would you want me to do if both of you guys are trying to hit me?
00:10:50ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ You got mad, because Little went to the kitchen and took the radio away from you, right? I got in the middle, I got pushed around by him and you at the same time and you pulled up your hands with the knife, right or wrong?
00:11:00LUIS CASTRO Yeah.
00:11:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ And then what I told you, guy you’re going to stab me.
00:11:05LUIS CASTRO I was very much.
00:11:05ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ So I came and I took the broomstick and I beat⦠and I beat you both with the broomstick.
00:11:05LUIS CASTRO No you didn’t hit him, you hit me only once.
00:11:10ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ But I, oh, but I got to hit you, right? And still you said, you hit me one more time, I’m going to kill you, right or wrong?
00:11:15LUIS CASTRO Yeah. I got tired of you I would’ve done it too, I got tired of you, thatâs it, because every timeâ¦
00:11:20ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ What’s it⦠What you’re going to get of it?
00:11:20LUIS CASTRO Every time you’re going to try to hit me because of him? I meanâ¦
00:11:20ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ It’s not nothing to do because of him, it’s the smart remarks that you come out Luis.
00:11:25LUIS CASTRO It’s always because of him, it’s always because of him.
00:11:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ No, it’s your nasty attitude.
00:11:25LUIS CASTRO It’s always because of him. He got you on check and that’s it.
00:11:30ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Nobody got me a check.
00:11:30LUIS CASTRO So whatever he says, whatever he’s says, you jump to it.
00:11:30ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ He’s my husband, I got to go for what he says.
00:11:35LUIS CASTRO You jump to it.
00:11:35ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, he’s my husband. We’re legally married, rather you I could have not then like I said you donât like it then the door was there and you left. Right or wrong?
00:11:50SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA At a certain Point adolescents have to see most of the negatives of their parents in order for them to be able to grow. And in that process, I think, the relationship between him and his parents grew more intense and⦠and more volatile. And it was at that time that I thought that we had a responsibility, um⦠to bring some boundaries around that⦠that behavior. Luis I’m asking you, please come today. I really want to talk with you and see you. I don’t care what’s going on, I don’t care what moved you in, I just want you here for a little while, please Luis.
00:12:30[sil.]
00:13:00LUIS CASTRO What mother would throw their son out in the street for their husband, think about it, you know?
00:13:05SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Then let’s ask her why she did.
00:13:05LUIS CASTRO If I’m not sent off⦠Because she wants to make him happy, that’s the only reason. They took our over protection of me, so they say or whatever, because I threw a bottle at him in the car, because he tried to hit me. There’s only one man that hits me and that’s my father. What makes you think I’m gonna let him do it?
00:13:20SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA But right now, no one should be hitting you, you’re too big for that.
00:13:20LUIS CASTRO Exactly.
00:13:25SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA But you still could have a way of expressing anger to one another, to⦠to your stepfather and your mother and I think that’s what we were hoping could happen, either you could sayâ¦
00:13:35LUIS CASTRO I don’t know, I just had like, you know, I know it’s wrong, it’s a sin and everything to have total hate for somebody, but I just do, I just can’t just hate him. Yes, I do, because he was trying to be the father that I never had, you know, and he’s always, I mean, I could understand that he’s trying, you know, whatever, but he was moving in that too fast. You understand?
00:13:55SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA I understand that. I’ve heard that from so many teenagers.
00:13:55LUIS CASTRO He was moving in fast, and I thought like if I would have stood in that house it would’ve led to either two things, me getting locked up or me getting killed. I have a real bad temper. I can’t control my temper.
00:14:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Elaine knows that.
00:14:10LUIS CASTRO Elaine knows that, my uncle Cisco knows that, Jose knows that. And my mom knows how to control me, and she⦠she used to tell him, just leave him alone, let me handle him. My mother used to tell himâ¦
00:14:20GERALDINE TOBIA I’m going to interrupt for a minute, and I’m going to tell you the reason why we’re having this meeting, is that I feel that I need to give you the message today, that I think you can control yourself. I’m giving you that message that that is like not acceptable, that it isn’t acceptable that you can just lose your temper and then someone else has to control it for you. I asked for this meeting specifically so that we could do two things; one, help you deal with all of the stuff that’s causing the anger, your mom, your stepfather, your father. I said that to Elaine that we have to give you opportunities to deal with it directly. And secondly to say, any other way is not acceptable. And you need to get that in your head that you are in control. You’re entering manhood and you need to be in control of that temper. We wouldn’t be here if we don’t believe honestly and truthfully that there is a wonderful young man there. I’m talking about getting those feelings that would sufficiently, so youâre real person that you are. Some of us see glimpses of every so often, can grow. You are really a lovable young man. You are. When someone is loved, they look for their own strength in themselves. When they’re detested for their behavior, behavior isn’t the person, it’s an action, it isn’t who the person is, behavior is an act. And I guess I go beyond the act and I try to find that person behind the act and then look for, who is this person, what is it that they have, what’s brought them to this point in their life? I mean, that’s really social work, learning about what brought them to where they are.
00:16:35Luis’s sister, Elena, takes part in a Center for Family Life theater workshop.
00:16:40Okay, now you can add words to this, in character whatever is on your mind, it doesn’t have to be directly related to what (crosstalk)(inaudible) has happened.
00:16:45ELENA I don’t understand when my parents don’t let me go to college in Albany. They say it’s so frustrating that they don’t trust me.
00:16:55My sister never minds her business, she’s always trying to rule.
00:17:00Boys, why did my mother asked me to stress out, boys.
00:17:00ELENA And nobody listens to me, nobody lets me do what I want to do.
00:17:05You know, when we found this school, see the people (inaudible ) we got this on the form, parents get together they just have to (inaudible ) the same, they just send their children outside to wander on their grave. This is life to live is a (inaudible ) so that something go really wrong from the time we’re seeing our friends (inaudible ) it’s all gone all night long. (Inaudible).
00:17:50[sil.]
00:18:10LUIS CASTRO Who told you about being pregnant?
00:18:10DARLENE About who?
00:18:15LUIS CASTRO About my sister being pregnant?
00:18:15DARLENE I think your uncle.
00:18:15LUIS CASTRO Which one?
00:18:20DARLENE Tonga(ph).
00:18:20LUIS CASTRO She’s the one who told me?
00:18:25DARLENE But it’s not like it came to a surprise to you.
00:18:25LUIS CASTRO Well, I sort of expected it, but then againâ¦
00:18:30DARLENE Because might, you know, it’s for real and I guess the truth, before you only suspected them both.
00:18:35LUIS CASTRO Yeah, but I feel⦠I feel stupid, because when everybody was coming up to me asking if she’s pregnant, I’m defending her saying no and telling everybody to mind their freaking business. And I come to find out that itâs true and then I got to hide my arse somewhere, right? But I don’t feel like she’s hiding who it is. She donât want to say who it is, because she knows I’m going to go ever there. Thenâ¦
00:18:55DARLENE And how are you going to find him?
00:19:00LUIS CASTRO I have a lot of friends, okay. I’ll find out, I⦠I’ll find⦠I find out things.
00:19:05DARLENE You can only blame the guy. May be she thought if she got pregnant, that was like her way out of the house may be.
00:19:15LUIS CASTRO Where’s she gonna go? She can’t even buy her panties now. Where’s she’s gonna go?
00:19:25DARLENE She’s young. People⦠People are gonna tell her anything and, you know, she’ll believe it.
00:19:30LUIS CASTRO Think about it, who’s going to rent an apartment to a 14-year-old, no damn body. Well then have a baby what, when she’s 15?
00:19:40DARLENE No, she’ll still be 14.
00:19:40LUIS CASTRO She’ll still be 14, really bad, 14 years old. She’s still be playing with Barbie dolls.
00:19:50A few weeks later, Luis and Darlene moved to Cleveland, Ohio, where Darlene has relatives.
00:19:55[sil.]
00:20:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA So I’ve had as many situations where an adolescent might have a child and it was the motivation to do better, as um⦠an adolescent will have a child and the whole Family goes down in poverty. I don’t know which way this Family will go.
00:20:15[sil.]
00:20:20Mother’s Day, 1998 Elena’s baby is expected within a few weeks of her brother’s and mother’s babies. She kept her pregnancy a secret during her first trimester.
00:20:35[sil.]
00:20:40I love you.
00:20:40ELENA I love you too.
00:20:45I’m not going to (inaudible ), I’m staying there until the baby is born, even though when the baby is born still I’m going to be there for you, you know. I’m going to try and do everything I could do.
00:20:50ELENA I visited the doctors today and, uh⦠they gave me a checkup and whatever. I heard the baby’s heart beat.
00:21:05[sil.]
00:21:15July, 1998 Elena’s baby was born 8 weeks premature, at 31lbs. 9ozs.
00:21:20ELENA Michael wake up, it’s mummy.
00:21:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ And that’s the blackened view we’re talking about, right?
00:21:25ELENA Yeah.
00:21:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ (Inaudible ).
00:21:30ELENA You got so much hair. Playing pickaboo, pickaboo. Hi, there you go!
00:21:40ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Hi, you got a boy baby.
00:21:45There you go.
00:21:50[sil.]
00:22:20Two weeks after having her baby, Elena returns to her job as an after-school counselor.
00:22:30I just put a little dark blue on the middle, that and put it on your mask like this. I know it looks messy because there’s extra sticking off the edges, right? But that’s okay, we’ll take care of that at the end. How are you feeling today?
00:22:55ELENA Better than yesterday.
00:22:55Yeah. You know, yesterday the stitches were bothering you. I didn’t know, I don’t know what you named your baby?
00:23:00ELENA Michael Mathew.
00:23:00Michael Mathew, it’s nice. Who’s gonna be taking care of the baby? Do you⦠Are you going to stay home with him?
00:23:05ELENA Me and my mom. While I go to school my mum is going to take care of him.
00:23:15Luis returns to Brooklyn to visit his new nephew.
00:23:20LUIS CASTRO Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright. Hey, hey, hey. I got the power.
00:23:35ELENA Yeah, right.
00:23:40SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA That would not want to say about this neighborhood, we’re here because most girls get pregnant early so therefore we’re going to be here to make sure that you don’t get pregnant. We just didn’t find that respectful. Hold you, um⦠um⦠People need to see their way themselves and that’s not for us to define, to spell out, or to prescribe, that’s not my role, it’s to be in the journey with people, give them a sense of, you can go somewhere, rather than you’re the dregs of the earth and we’re here to save you. Itâs more like where, why are you not seeing all that you have to offer.
00:24:30Sunset Park celebrates the Center’s 20th anniversary.
00:24:35[sil.]
00:24:50SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA That is just great. At any given time anyone of us who live here in Sunset Park, you need something and we have something to give. Oh I love it. And I hope that the center is been that place where the possibilities for that give and take, take place.
00:25:10(Inaudible).
00:25:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA And absolutely major goal of the center is to help each individual person be everything they can possibly become. Not to label people, look for people’s strengths and not just their pathology. The mission is to really support Family life. Here are the 20 years of Sunset Park and the Center for Family Life. This will be our hope and dreams and prayers for the future. As the Center for Family Life goes into its next decade.
00:25:50[sil.]
00:26:20Rosa’s baby was born on September 11, 1998 with a heart defect. He died three days later.
00:26:25[sil.]
00:27:00Two weeks later is the wedding day of Rosa’s brother, Cisco Santiago. He is marrying Gretchen Gomez, a supervisor at one of the Center’s after-school programs.
00:27:10Cisco.
00:27:15[sil.]
00:27:20Want to have drinks. We’ll see you in a little while.
00:27:25The guys are meeting over there?
00:27:30Guys are meeting here at 2 o’clock.
00:27:30The guys are meeting in his house at 2:00.
00:27:35I donât have a camera.
00:27:35Are you nervous?
00:27:40CISCO SANTIAGO I just want to get over it.
00:27:45[sil.]
00:28:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA The marriage of Gretchen Gomez and⦠and Cisco Santiago is a thrilling event for me. I’ve known Cisco since he was about 13 or 14. And Gretchen applied to work for us at the age of 16.
00:28:20They right now are married as husband and wife. They can give their first little kiss, right? Little kiss.
00:28:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA They are the new leaders, not us anymore, more kids know their names, than ours. So the thrill for me is that, you know, they⦠they have become the new generation that’s going to run this neighborhood and they’re just the finest two human beings I know.
00:28:55Adios, amigos.
00:29:00October, 1998
00:29:05[sil.]
00:29:50SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Where’s Elena?
00:29:50ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ She’s never here.
00:29:50SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA No!
00:29:55ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I stay over here. I don’t even go out anymore, I stay home.
00:30:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA And you’re happy doing that?
00:30:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, and this is the baby we got. I don’t like being in the street no more, so I stay here. I do my things, I clean, I cook then I start seeing my soap operas.
00:30:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA When you lose someone very special like that, it takes a little bit of the life out of you, takes a little bit of the life out of you and the enjoyment of life, and somehow it’s going to take time for you to get past that. I can’t imagine what it is to lose a child.
00:30:30ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ It hurts.
00:30:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA It hurts.
00:30:35ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ He keeps me occupied so I try to⦠to forget everything that goes on.
00:30:40[sil.]
00:30:45January, 1999 Luis and Darlene visit from Cleveland with their 4 week old baby, Luis Jr.
00:30:55[sil.]
00:31:25LUIS CASTRO There you go, there you go. oh my God, oneâs enough.
00:31:35DARLENE Oh yeah, after that pain, no more, uh⦠uh, never, 15 hours.
00:31:40LUIS CASTRO 15 hours, so?
00:31:40DARLENE What do mean so?
00:31:45LUIS CASTRO Wasn’t it worth it?
00:31:45DARLENE It was worth it, but the pain was, no⦠no⦠no⦠no.
00:31:50LUIS CASTRO Don’t worry about it.
00:31:50DARLENE Because my body can’t afford to take the pain.
00:31:55LUIS CASTRO Oh my God, you’re a worse.
00:32:00DARLENE What’s the meaning of worse?
00:32:00LUIS CASTRO My sister feeds her kid like crazy. Every time he cries she’ll throw a bottle into his mouth. I’ll say he’s tough. He’ll come out just like my sister. Attitude, you know, (inaudible ). Hey, hello? And your mother better get home soon. Welcome home, this kid is (inaudible ).
00:32:31ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I’m sorry.
00:32:35SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Oh my goodness!Darlene how are you?
00:32:35DARLENE I’m fine.
00:32:40SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Oh, you got two?
00:32:40DARLENE Yeah, you’re okay.
00:32:45SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Hi, how are you doing? Okay. What kind of work are you doing?
00:32:50LUIS CASTRO I work with marble and granite. I’m a craftsman.
00:32:55SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA That’s great, that’s a wonderful trade!
00:32:55LUIS CASTRO Good money. Did mum show her the piece I’d made you?
00:33:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Oh how beautiful!
00:33:05LUIS CASTRO Virgin Mary with the baby.
00:33:05SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Oh that’s so beautiful!
00:33:05LUIS CASTRO We make a chess board in marble, we make pieces.
00:33:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Do you get benefits?
00:33:15LUIS CASTRO Everything, both coverage and everything.
00:33:15GERALDINE TOBIA Thatâs great! I know your Family is proud of you.
00:33:15LUIS CASTRO Yeah.
00:33:20GERALDINE TOBIA Your mother is, your stepfather is, theyâre really proud.
00:33:20LUIS CASTRO And we got a better relationship now.
00:33:25DARLENE Yeah.
00:33:25GERALDINE TOBIA You and Little?
00:33:25LUIS CASTRO (Inaudible ), we’re like friends now, weâre just always hanging out and stuff, you know, but he’s not working, it’s critical. I sort of take it off when we get out of this house, I think it was just all of us living here, it was likeâ¦
00:33:35DARLENE That’s what happens.
00:33:35GERALDINE TOBIA A little distant, yeah.
00:33:40LUIS CASTRO Yeah, it was like, I don’t know there was too many people living here, you know, we had her, then we had Maggie and my sister my mom and the little one, it was just likeâ¦
00:33:45SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA On top of each other.
00:33:45LUIS CASTRO I was like, oh God, we gotta get out. New Yorkis too crowded to teach any kid or give any kid a life, it’s too crowded, that’s the way I feel. But that’s why I’m telling to my mom to move out there. You know, my mom wants to move out there she’s going to go check it out, because it’s better, I mean, raise my nephew in a better neighborhood than here you know.
00:34:05SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA You’re very proud of him and Darlene.
00:34:05ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, I am.
00:34:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Over the years I’ve noticed that working with families who have histories of kind of being beaten down, getting messages both within their own immediate Family or from the world outside that they’re not capable, they become so comfortable with the negative identities and they’re not comfortable with their strength and their positives. I know, you’ve been talking about your dreams too, the things you want and so has Ben. Michael is getting so chubby. I wouldn’t want to become Pollyannaish. People need you to be able to get in there and honestly help them see⦠see what they’re struggling with. They⦠They don’t want that to be watered down, they want to be able to trust enough to be able to tell you their negative feelings about themselves. And we need to be able to honestly know those people so we see their strengths as well.
00:35:10[sil.]
00:35:15BEN You’re not helping your mother nothing. I don’t want to kid your own kid. You donât want to do nothing. You don’t want to go to school. You say you do, but when it’s time go to school you don’t go to school, you want to go hangout. But did you understand something, you’re a mother now. All that hanging out is completely like, you know, die down. I don’t say nothing to you because I know you’re going to come out stupid on me. You want to curse now and this not what I’m supposed to do, beat you up, no, that’s not my style, thatâs not the way I work.
00:35:45ELENA And goes without.
00:35:50BEN Why? All of sudden we say, you’re partying, you say, no, I’m not, you want to leave. What I’m supposed to do, grab you by your neck and hold you down? That’s what we’re supposed to do? No, I don’t think though, I don’t work like that.
00:36:00ELENA If I was doing something bad then?
00:36:05BEN You’re not going to school.
00:36:05ELENA But I was working.
00:36:10BEN That no, you’re not supposed to be working.
00:36:10ELENA So?
00:36:10BEN So, what do you mean so?
00:36:10ELENA Um⦠either way, either way, I’m doing studying, I was doing studying.
00:36:15BEN You got the responsibility to go to school, thatâs our⦠that’s our responsibility. If you don’t go to school we get into trouble, automatically we get into trouble. You’re not supposed to be working, you’re supposed to be at school.
00:36:30ELENA Nobody was giving me money so I had to get it for myself.
00:36:35BEN It doesn’t⦠It doesnât make any difference.
00:36:35ELENA Yes it does. If you’re not making, if nobody gives you money you gotta work, right?
00:36:45BEN If I’m old enough, yeah. But If I’m not old enough, I got to stay in school.
00:36:45ELENA So I gotta go to school with the same shit, all the time, right? I don’t think so.
00:36:55BEN There you go, youâre trying to go over me. You’re not an adult. If you were really was an adult, you know which is right.
00:37:05[sil.]
00:37:40March, 1999 Rosa is pregnant again. MAGGIE CRUZ Benny’s Daughter
00:37:40SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Remember last week, I asked you if you could, um⦠help your mom and⦠and Ben like enjoy this pregnancy and give them a chance to, you know, have this baby and support them? And you weren’t⦠you weren’t, um⦠with it, were you? Um⦠Can you tell Ben why?
00:38:15ELENA Because he left all his other kids, what makes⦠what makes us think that he’s going to stay around for this one.
00:38:20SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA So you’re worried?
00:38:25ELENA Yeah, I don’t want my mum to suffer.
00:38:25BEN She’s doing the same thing to her son.
00:38:30ELENA No.
00:38:30BEN She’s never here for him, she don’t take care of him.
00:38:35ELENA So?
00:38:35BEN So! And she’s worrying about her mother, she’s not even worrying about her kid, so she’s only speaking what she’s saying.
00:38:50ELENA It seems like they want to put us in a house so. I think we live for them, it’s right.
00:38:55SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Now tell me something, right, okay but⦠but Elena I really and truly want you to ans⦠answer this, okay, from your heart. Do you really believe that they would like you both out?
00:39:10ELENA That’s right.
00:39:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA You really believe that?
00:39:10ELENA Yes I do.
00:39:15SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Well, we’re going to have to work on that, if you really believe they want you out of here, they may noâ¦
00:39:20ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ She makes no sense.
00:39:20ELENA He’s telling you to sign the papers then you want to do it, so do it I’m not scared.
00:39:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I havenât signed them.
00:39:25ELENA You act like I’m scared, I’m not scared.
00:39:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ See, there she goes, nobody’s telling that you’re scared.
00:39:25ELENA I’m not scared so if you’re going to do it stop threatening, stop threatening me with it.
00:39:30ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Itâs like you do really want us to go through it. We’ve given you the chance to change and to be a mother, that’s it.
00:39:40SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA You want to get it over with?
00:39:40ELENA Yeah, because if that if there’s an argument they’re saying, oh, you know, that’s why I’m putting you in a home, so I’d be like do it, do it, I’m not scared. They think that I’m going to cry and, oh don’t put me in there, I’m not going to beg, please.
00:39:55SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA You know what did you do when⦠when you thought she might um? What did you do?
00:40:00ELENA Tried to kill myself.
00:40:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA So.
00:40:05ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Which she tried to do yesterday also, she dropped some pills.
00:40:10[sil.]
00:40:15SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Rosa, the last two fights you two have had, they’ve both been about the same thing.
00:40:20BEN About?
00:40:20ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ About?
00:40:25SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Her⦠Her threatening to kill herself.
00:40:30ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ We donât know. Alright, but⦠See I don’t understand. I don’t really understand myself, because when I was.
00:40:35SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA That scares you, that scares you.
00:40:35ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I mean Elena gets me angry, she makes me want to take, uh⦠life before she does it or take my life butâ¦
00:40:45SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA She’s⦠She says that she’s that depressed.
00:40:50ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ What is that she’s so depressed about?
00:40:55SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA I don’t know.
00:40:55ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I mean could you really⦠I’ve done lots of times, she donât want to ask, she tells me, it’s none of my business, so I’m minding my business.
00:41:05[sil.]
00:41:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA It’s okay to have a sad child. Don’t blame yourself just hang in⦠hang in with her.
00:41:15ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Iâm not hanging myself. Iâm not hanging myself. Iâve tried, Iâve tried to help her.
00:41:20SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Stay still and justâ¦
00:41:25ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ And she⦠she makes no sense. I mean, there’s gotta be something wrong that’s going on with her and Michael.
00:41:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Is there anyway that we could just not find a reason for her feeling so sad and just let her? She’s a child.
00:41:45April, 1999
00:41:50[sil.]
00:41:55You know mom is worrying about baby and you.
00:42:00ELENA I told them I’m not ready to be in the house 24/7, I like to go out and that’s it.
00:42:10We didn’t take care of him yesterday?
00:42:10ELENA Yeah, we took care of him so she wants me to be at home. She thinks it’s you.
00:42:20She thinks it’s me, what?
00:42:20ELENA That’s making me stay out.
00:42:25Her attitude.
00:42:25ELENA My attitude?
00:42:25Yes.
00:42:30ELENA No.
00:42:30Yeah, you do have an attitude problem. You’re rolling your eyes, serious, and you don’t listen. You know, you don’t act like kids.
00:42:40[sil.]
00:42:50June, 1999
00:42:50SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Do you think he’s best for you?
00:42:55ELENA That’s why I’m happy with him right now, soâ¦
00:43:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Do you think he’s best for you?
00:43:00ELENA What, you see how you are, you keep on laughing, keep on.
00:43:05SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA No⦠no⦠no⦠no⦠no⦠no. I don’t want her involved in this, I want you to ask yourself that question. Do you think he’s best for you?
00:43:10ELENA He is, right now, and I don’t care what anybody says, anybody.
00:43:20[sil.]
00:43:25SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA It would be much easier for your mother. For her just to drop it, not care whether you go to school, not care whether you have a boyfriend who hits you or mistreats you. I heard he broke your⦠your beeper?
00:43:35ELENA My beeper, yeah.
00:43:40SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA I mean, what do you want your mother to do, to say all those things are great that are happening to you? He couldn’t possibly love you more than your mother or Ben. And I⦠I find that that’s a lot whatâs going on right now. Youâre struggling whether you want to be part of this Family or you want Michael, and it’s going on every day.
00:44:05[sil.]
00:44:10ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Maggie, don’t give me much trouble. Maggie comes from school, she got to do the dishes, she cleans the room, she cleans the baby. She doesn’t have to be doing this. She comes from school sometimes she pulls out her book and she’s out the door again.
00:44:20BEN We say to clean something you clean that so simple as that. Why is she like that, because she wanna do what she wanna do. And I’m not having you here, you go by my rules or you go to the home, right now that’s it for me, she’s going to a home. As soon as the social worker comes I don’t know why it’s taking him so long I want to know. It’s the best thing for her, for me and my wife, simple as that.
00:44:40ELENA And why you wanted to put Luis in a home when he was out here.
00:44:45ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Why, because he was out of control also, but look at him now.
00:44:50ELENE Then he want to go, I think he’s not making a penny for us, he used to be by himself, because you took out, you⦠you⦠you took out the paper for Maggie too fast to be in a home, the kids that come into the house you’re going to put them in homes because you can’t take of them.
00:45:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Yeah, then why have, why⦠why take care of your son when I donât have to.
00:45:05BEN Luis in past wanted to do what he wanted to do, because he was 15 and he was going crazy, understand. He always came back to me and he tells me, I’m sorry, listen I was wrong. He came here admit himself he was wrong, and that’s what I love about Luis. The only time she came to me, is to ask for something, but she never came to me and say sorry about anything.
00:45:30ELENA Because most of the time you’re wrong.
00:45:30BEN Because I’m not wrong, I’m not wrong.
00:45:35ELENA And most of the time you’re wrong and you can’t admit it.
00:45:35BEN What’s the reason that you hate me so much?
00:45:40ELENA The reason I do, because you don’t know how to mind your business.
00:45:40BEN It is my business.
00:45:40ELENA It’s not your business, I’m not your daughter, I’m not your blood, you got to worry about Maggie, alright. She’s your sperm, I’m not, I’m not, simple as that. While he’s drunk I asked him for money and I admit that, while he’s drunk I asked him for money, because that’s the only way we could talk like that, that’s the only way I could get money when he’s drunk.
00:46:05SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA And that’s what you want?
00:46:05BEN That’s what she wants.
00:46:05ELENA That’s all I want. I don’t need his love. I don’t want, I don’t, I swear to God I don’t, I’ don’t, I don’t.
00:46:15SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Well, you both have to work on this. We can’t just have a vicious circle that just has no end. And I have to say honestly, you both play a role in this, you both do. They had this very strong belief that all of us come into the world is broken and divided within ourselves and that our journey through life is⦠is⦠is finding that integrity and that wholeness. And there’s where the Family and community come in, because often weâre broken families or we’re broken communities. And working on that wholeness is to me a holy act.
00:47:05July, 1999 Center for Family Life Summer Day Camp
00:47:15ELENA See you on Monday.
00:47:20[sil.]
00:47:30ELENA I’m gonna get you, I’m gonna get you, I’m gonna get you, oh, mummy. Bye, yeah.
00:47:45In July, 1999 Sister Geraldine suffered a seizure while driving and had a serious car crash. The seizure was a complication of cancer treatments. She chose not to reveal to any of the families she was working with that she had cancer.
00:47:55ELENA Hi, Sister Geraldine this is Elena.
00:48:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Hi Elena.
00:48:00ELENA Hi.
00:48:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA It’s good to talk to you and I missed you.
00:48:05ELENA Yeah, my mum told me about the accident, that’s how I knew.
00:48:05SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA In some ways the accident probably saved my life, because they rushed me right away to a hospital where they operated on the head. See the⦠the seizure was caused by blood going to my head and they got the blood drained out andâ¦
00:48:20ELENA So they operated on your head?
00:48:20SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA On my head. Yeah, they stopped the blood from going in it.
00:48:25ELENA That’s scary.
00:48:25SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Yeah, it is. You were away for a while, right?
00:48:30ELENA Yeah, for like four days.
00:48:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA What happened?
00:48:35ELENA Well, me and my mom got into an argument and Little got involved. He wanted to hit me and I flipped down and then they called the cops and I got arrested.
00:48:45GERALDINE TOBIA Oh gosh!
00:48:50ELENA And then I went to court on Monday and they placed me in a⦠in a home, Urban Strategies.
00:48:55GERALDINE TOBIA Uh-huh.
00:48:55ELENA And then I called my mom if she could go pick me up, because I was going to leave from there, she didn’t, so she went to go pick me up.
00:49:00SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA And you got home?
00:49:05ELENA Yeah, and everything’s been fine since that day. We spoke about it and everything.
00:49:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA You spoke with Little too?
00:49:10ELENE Yeah.
00:49:10SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Uh-huh.
00:49:10ELENA And told⦠I told him what he did to get me angry and he apologized to me and I apologized to him and everything has been going good so far.
00:49:20SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Oh, that’s so good! And I’m glad to hear that you and he are getting along better.
00:49:25ELENA Yeah.
00:49:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA Because he really does care about you.
00:49:30ELENA Hmmâ¦hmmâ¦
00:49:30SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA I think being somewhat handicapped was for me both a blessing and a difficulty. The hard part is being needy and it was good for me to feel being needy, because I know what it’s like for our clients to feel like they’ve lost, or our neighbors, you know, our community people to feel dependent. And it’s not always a comfortable thing, but it’s⦠it’s a good thing to get past, because there⦠there is a grace I think in being given to.
00:50:00On September 13, 1999 Rosa and Benny’s baby, Jesus, was born. A week later Rosa’s brother Cisco, and his wife, Gretchen, visit with their new baby.
00:50:10[sil.]
00:50:15CISCO What’s the matter Michael? What’s up? They got you caged in?
00:50:20[sil.]
00:50:30CISCO Youâre big brother already soon or big cousin.
00:50:35ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ No, Michael is our nephew, my son is his uncle.
00:50:40CISCO Oh that’s your uncle! Oh boy! You just figured that one out.
00:50:45(Inaudible ) uncle, look at that. Yeah.
00:50:50CISCO Isn’t that weird, your uncle is younger than you, so you have to respect him.
00:50:55ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I went to see Sister Geraldine on Sunday.
00:50:55Oh yeah!
00:51:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ And she looks good, she looks pretty good.
00:51:00Hmmâ¦hmmâ¦
00:51:00ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ She’s just dying to come home she said. Her legs are better.
00:51:05Yeah!
00:51:05ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ And she took it so strong too.
00:51:10Yeah, Sister Geraldine is a strong person.
00:51:10ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ Hmmâ¦hmmâ¦
00:51:15SISTER GERALDINE TOBIA When Jesus Noel was born, Rosa went out of her way to bring her new baby to see me. He is a beautiful baby and he’s healthy and I think we’re all now going to pray in Thanks Giving for having little Jesus Noel in our lives. I hope I’ll be around to see him grow up. And I have great hopes for him and Michael Mathew. I think gifts that were in that Family are being more expressed where they were may be more hidden behind anger and other ways they express their attachment to one another. I think now they’re⦠they’re more comfortable just uh⦠expressing another side of themselves to each other.
00:52:00Sister Geraldine became critically ill, but she continued to work from her hospital bed. She died of cancer on April 25, 2000
00:52:10[sil.]
00:52:15ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ I was about 11 when I first met her. She was our second mother there so she’s going to be missed.
00:52:25I know that you’re here because you loved to see Geraldine. She’s experienced your love so deeply in her.
00:52:35You’re so missed sister, every day, every moment at CFL.
00:52:35CISCO I remember you knowing me better than I knew myself. All those days in you is close to my heart, your tenderness, understanding and even when you scolded me occasionally.
00:52:50ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ When we were in gangs and we’ve always in fights she will get in the middle, she will get slapped and she never gave up on us, that’s why some of them now to this day are still alive because of her.
00:53:00Three, two, one.
00:53:05To Sister Geraldine.
00:53:10LUIS CASTRO She will never crotch, she’d always been on top of somebody. I think if she had a chance to talk to Satan himself she could straighten him out.
00:53:20ELENA They’re cutting down some of youth program and even when she was in the hospital, she was still working, calling places, all these places for us just to have jobs this summer.
00:53:35LUIS CASTRO Once the tree dies the leaves won’t bloom anymore, and that’s how I feel, she was our tree and we were just leaves on it.
00:53:40DARLENE Never she wouldnât want you or anybody to feel that you need to hurt to be, you know, strong. She wanted you to stand strong on your own.
00:53:55[sil.]
00:54:05ROSA SANTIAGO CRUZ If it wasn’t for her, who knows what route my son would have taken or⦠or Elena. By now she is in heaven, but she will always be a part of my heart.
00:54:20[sil.]
00:54:35Produced and directed by ROGER WEISBURG, & MURRAY NOSSEL Edited by HOWARD SHARP, Original Music Composed, Arranged, and Produced by MARK SUOZZO, Field Producer JULIE SACKSAssociate Producer DEBORAH CLANCY, Cinematographer EDWARD MARRITZProduction Assistants STACEY BASRNETT, MARY CONNER, BILL D’ AGOSTINO, JOEDAN OKUN, CHEN HIS WONG On line Editor DOUGLAS O’CONNOR Sound Editors DOW McKEEVER MARSHA MOORE Post Production Sound Mixed by DOW McKEEVER Additional Camera ROBERT ACHS, KEVIN CLOUTIER, BRIAN DANITZ, SCOTT GOODMAN, KENNY GRONNINGSATER, MEAD HUNT TONY PAGANO, GORD WATERMAN, RICH WHITE Principal Sound JUAN RODRIGUEZ, Additional Sound CARLO ALBANESE, JOSE AVILES, PAUL BANG, DANIEL BROOKS, RICHARD JULIANO, JUDY KARP, FRANCISCO LATORRE, MARK MANDLER, JOHN MURPHY, JACK NORFLUS, ROBERT REED, DEAN SARJEANT JERRY STEIN, JAMES WILLIAMS Production Interns PATRICK BOYTON, JAMIE DEAN, ERIC FORMAN, TED GESING JASON HAN LAUREN HARDER AMANDA THOMAS AISHA JAFRI ALEXIS JALLAD, PAULA KLING, BARBARA KOPELOFF JASON NU GINA RAICOVICH A Production of Public Policy Productions in association with Thirteen/WNET New York © 2001 Public Policy Productions, Inc.
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